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Ghomeshi opens every show with the same salutation: To say that Ghomeshi has extended the reach of a Canadian public radio host is an understatement, like saying Justin Bieber has heightened the aspirations of tween buskers from Stratford.
Q is one of the most popular radio shows in Canada and is syndicated by U. A weekly televised version of the show drawsviewers, the Q YouTube channel averages 1. He manages to unite an unusually diverse audience of indie-loving university students, retirees and every age in between with a programming mix that is broad yet curated a recent broadcast featured an interview with former prime minister Joe Clark, a Martha Wainwright song and a segment on why the majority of Icelanders believe in elves.
His bosses put him in front of a mike or camera whenever possible. This month he will be part of the broadcast team in Sochi, offering a side of politics and pop culture with his athlete interviews.
In March, he will host Canada Reads, a reality contest where prominent Canadians advocate for prominent Canadian books. For a guy who has always felt like an outsider, he has managed quite deftly to plant himself in the centre of everything.
Well, Hi There: Jian Ghomeshi, live and off the air
When I visit, he apologizes for the mess—piles of books and CDs, papers stacked on every available surface. The room is steps from the Q studio. He is dressed in his usual uniform: The schedule on his computer resembles a game of Tetris right before the Game Over message—coloured blocks cramped one on top of the other with only the tiniest gaps.
In this case the colours mean something: Ghomeshi sold his Cabbagetown house and moved to the Beach last fall. His evenings are filled with parties, openings, concerts, screenings, debates, awards ceremonies, panels. He gets dozens of hosting requests every month: Those ones, he says, are the hardest to turn down. Even before we cleared the entranceway, he fielded hellos from three people.
Over the course of an hour he has conversations with more than 30 friends, diehard fans and people who recognize him from his foot-tall likeness on the side of the CBC building. During our time together he is unfailingly charming, thoughtful and funny. If we had been on a first date it would have been a good one.
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He says living in a low-key, less-than-hip neighbourhood was his way of creating a sanctuary outside the madness of his job. For a month after he took possession, it was still full of unpacked boxes. Ghomeshi has always been a Type-A personality. InGhomeshi tells stories about kids asking where he kept his turbans and machine guns. His mom made him stay out of the sun to keep him as light as possible. Ziggy Stardust represented everything young Jian was not—confident, cool, white.
The book is funny, at times poignant and undeniably self-mythologizing. Early on he had his eye on the prize. As a grade schooler he had two paper routes—one for the Globe, one for the Star. At Thornlea Secondary, he was that kid who did everything: After graduating, he majored in political science at York. Music was always a big part of his life. Ghomeshi joined bands in elementary and high school. The band started off as a satirical comedy group with some music in their act. Ghomeshi wore his hair long with blond streaks.
The next day I got a call from Jian. Ross jokes that managing a band with Ghomeshi in it was like working with a co-manager. The sound was earnest, energetic, unapologetically brainy and about as far from the apathetic grunge of Kurt Cobain as you could get.
They developed a big following in the States and played regularly in the U. Ghomeshi was the only one who wanted to keep going.
Then Ghomeshi came up with an alternate strategy. It was a smart move. If a person's recollection or expression of the facts seems to not make sense, then you need to bear in mind that It's not always the case that they're lying. Sometimes, events are built up in our minds over time to the point that we think they were bigger than they actually were. Sometimes, we forget details, or attach them to the wrong events.
Sometimes, people are willing to tweak the facts because it sounds better that way. There's a great deal of obvious melodrama in the writing. Some of it's style, but some of it is content, and inherently dubious at that.
The descriptions of 'Keith' are way too over-the-top, "He looked at me the way a creepy older man looks at a young, silly girl he's going to buy a drink he's planning to slip a roofie into.
That, at the very beginning of the 'date', prior to any overt misconduct. Yet she went to the concert with him anyways, stayed with him, continued to talk to him, got into his car, after supposedly concluding that he was a "sexual predator". She says that she talked at high speed for 20 minutes because she was 'nervous'. Happens in job interviews and first dates all the time. An 'uncomfortable' first date tends to be signalled more by awkward silence. She seems to take offence to him repeatedly checking his phone, as if disinterested in what she's saying though she admits she was talking nervously about nothing in particular, and says she wasn't really paying attention to what he said.
If you see a couple in a wine bar, with the girl talking a mile a minute, and the guy repeatedly checking his phone The picture doesn't jive with the overall narrative.
What's more, she admits to several lies within the body of the piece itself. Some were trying to spare his feelings - but most of those were after he'd already supposedly crossed the line in some fairly egregious ways. Claiming to be a fan of his, when she'd merely heard of him, and knew of his radio show, makes clear the 'social climber' narrative - she wants to meet up with him because she thinks he can do good things for her.
It doesn't help her credibility, that she will play fast and loose with the facts if it advances her interests. But what hit me in her version of the narrative is how disinterested she claims to have been in what he was telling her. I wasn't really paying attention. She appears to think that he's just being full of himself, thinking too highly of himself and his friends.
The trouble, of course, is this: On the list of the "who's who of Canadian indie rock", Jian Ghomeshi features quite prominently. A Toronto-based media writer absolutely should know this and careeven if she was an early teenager when he was topping the Canadian charts. Jian Ghomeshi used to be part of a band known as Moxy Fruvouswhich during the 90s had a couple of fairly major hits.
Notwithstanding her description of his 'band' leaving the impression that he was a poser in a garage band, Moxy Fruvous was quite popular, including within several demographics of Ciccone's age group. A shame that McCann is leaving.
Well, Hi There: Jian Ghomeshi, live and off the air
I have no trouble believing that, if Jian Ghomeshi was introducing her to the "Who's who of Canadian indie rock", these were some fairly significant Canadian celebrities. But this was exactly what she had hoped that Ghomeshi would do for her.
She's not doing herself any favours by admitting that she didn't know who they were, but the disinterest, from a would-be media writer Likewise, the strength of her belief that he was gay is undermined by the fact that she clearly knew nothing about him. As well, on the one hand, she's claiming to have stood up for herself, repeatedly stopping him from touching her, etc. If she just didn't want to be on a date with him, she could have and should have cut it off the moment she realized there was a misunderstanding.
As for his misconduct, the sole act that makes one think she might be a victim is the 'grab', and she could have and yes, probably should have left at that point.
But the fact that she didn't did not in any way lead to further 'victimization' in any sense, and so There's a disconnect here, in the details. If she's really just that timid, is it possible that she didn't reject his advances in the way she says she did? I've never met Ghomeshi.
Maybe he is creepy - it wouldn't surprise me from everything I've seen. But the difference between him being predatory, versus slightly out of line, versus potentially not-at-all out of line, is in her responses to his advances. And - even if I were to assume the truth of the facts of his advances alone which I don't - there's still the question of how clearly he should have known that they were unwelcome.
I'm no expert on dating - I'm more of a "long-term relationship" kind of person, which means I haven't been on a whole lot of first dates - but while grabbing her behind strikes me as fairly shocking and inappropriate, at least in the absence of clear signals that it would be welcome, the rest of the alleged contact - trying to hold her hand, putting his arm around her, rubbing her back - seems less offensive, from a guy who thought this was supposed to be a date, failing to read non-verbal cues she claims to have been sending On the most generous read of her story, his attempt to grab her behind was - by a wide margin - the most offensive action.
Yet she stayed with him, put up with further advances, got into a car with a person she had already concluded was a sexual predator Because she was afraid of hurting his feelings?
Because she was worried about the career implications of ditching this person whom she had now concluded was a nobody with nobody friends not worth paying attention to? There are clear problems in the narrative. Has she credibly advanced the particular facts necessary to support the inference she wants us to draw, that she's a victim of Keith's creepy predatory ways? Look for External Verification Along the lines of 'inconsistencies', which hurt credibility, look for external facts that would confirm or deny the details.
Google's a wonderful thing. Metric did, in fact, play at the Opera House on June 12,which is in the right timeframe to fit this story.
However, there are definitely, at minimum, liberties taken. For example, the incident where she walked down the street "two months later" and was overcome by a similar cologne causing her to vomit, she recounted via Twitter on June 18, as having "street-gagged" at the cologne.
So, for artistic license, she turned a 'street-gag' six days later into a full-fledged vomit reflex two months after the fact. I understand artistic license. In any movie "based on a true story", I usually assume that the true details are pretty minimalistic.
But it doesn't enhance credibility in a narrative purporting to be actually true. Also, while Jian Ghomeshi's sexual orientation does appear to have been questioned in some quarters, it's hardly accurate to say that he was widely assumed to be gay.
Not really sure where Ciccone got that. Consider the context Think about whether or not there may be contextual details omitted, which might give rise to other explanations or justifications. I want to be careful here, because I don't want to come off as implying that, because it was a date, he was allowed to get handsy. And on the description of the facts, he appears to have crossed a line.
But there are a couple of contextual factors to consider: Firstly, as much as she seems to be appalled by the fact that he was coming on to her, he thought it was a date, and she didn't dispel this illusion. If I'm on a date, I consider it fairly natural to put my arm around my partner's shoulders. Granted, I've been with my current partner for years, but I'm pretty sure I put an arm around her shoulders on the first date. And there was definitely physical contact on the second date, as she made sure I didn't have a concussion after I was violently assaulted by the wall of the squash court.
Well, after she caught her breath from laughing so hard. Secondly, my experience of concerts, while limited, isn't that there's a great deal of 'personal space'. Especially without assigned seating, I have to imagine a lot of crowding, with physical contact being essentially inevitable, with a distinct possibility of inadvertent contact that would otherwise be highly inappropriate.
There's a big difference between an intentional grab and, for example, an unintentional graze, and this incident is clearly described as the former, but given the other elements of artistic license and exaggeration present in the story Ignore the Rhetoric There's a lot of loaded language here, a lot of name-calling, a lot of highly subjective adjectives.
Look past that and ask, "What's actually being said here? She thought he was gay. He asked her out, and she said yes. She quickly picked up on the fact that he wasn't gay, and didn't want to date him, but didn't say so. He talked a lot about himself, and thought highly of himself.
She was uncomfortable with him, and he didn't pick up on that. They went to the concert. He grabbed her behind. She objected and asked him to stop. He then tried to hold her hand. She pulled her hand away. He later tried putting his arm around her shoulders. She removed it, claiming to be too hot. He later tried putting his arm around her waist, and she left. She then returned, told her she was going home because she wasn't feeling well, and he insisted on giving her a ride.9 Times Jake Gyllenhaal Made Us Swoon With His Softer Side
She got into his car, and he drove her home, and offered to walk her to the door. Watch for third-party referencing to bolster credibility There are a few rhetorical tricks, which attempt to improve the credibility of the account.